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“And then?!” »: tense exchange between Borne and Villepin on Israel in “Quelle Epoque” (photo: Élisabeth Borne, in flagrante delicto of vaping in the hemicycle, October 7, 2023)
POLITICS – Ex quarrel. The two former Prime Ministers Élisabeth Borne and Dominique de Villepin were able to discuss on the set of “Quelle Époque” on France 2, in the program broadcast on Saturday November 23 in the evening. The first came to present her book 20 months at Matignon. The second was invited to discuss the dramatic humanitarian situation in Gaza.
And it is on international issues that the tone has risen between the two. Faithful to his indignation since October 7, the Hamas attack in Israel and the response of the Hebrew State on the Gaza Strip, the former head of French Diplomacy under Jacques Chirac denounced the inaction and blindness of France in this theater.
« France's message has often been confused by different positions over time. The fight that must be waged is a fight that defends the principles, those that must be defended in Ukraine and in Gaza and in the Middle East “, for example, he whispered several times, arousing the disapproval of some of the guests, including Élisabeth Borne.
“There are not many diplomats on the set”
The former Prime Minister actually denounced criticism of “ politicians policies » towards Emmanuel Macron, recalling France's constant position – although little listened to. “ What is your magic solution? What is your magic solution when Joe Biden gives an ultimatum to Benjamin Netanyahu who does not respect it? »she said several times to her interlocutor, clearly annoyed by his speech.
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Response from Dominique de Villepin: “ It is not to accept, it is not to accept. » Reply from Élisabeth Borne: “ well I don't accept it, the massacres in the Gaza Strip I don't accept them. And then?! »
Asked about the concrete actions to be taken, the former Prime Minister of Jacques Chirac advocated dialogue and the independence of France. This, even if all the initiatives taken so far, from ceasefire to resolution, have remained dead letters.
« I'm sorry but I don't think there are many diplomats on this set. Diplomacy is trying and trying again “, he whispered, defending for example the opening of Gaza to observers and journalists (which is not the case today) by explaining: ” it's exactly the same in Ukraine. »
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