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Imaginary interview with Lula, by Rita Almeida
In my ideal world, a likely interview with Lula that addressed Janja’s speech at the G20 would be like this:
Reporter interviews President Lula:
(To read with Lula’s voice)
– President, didn’t you find Janja’s comment about Elon Musk unreasonable and mistaken?
– Janja is an adult woman and is completely responsible for her speech, she doesn’t just say what I agree with, she says what she thinks. And I’m not going to tell her to shut up, if that’s what you’re asking me, our relationship is not based on her silence. Let her speak the way she wants and take responsibility for the consequences. Do you know what I would find unreasonable and wrong? If she had made a racist, misogynistic, fascist, xenophobic speech. I would even distrust the woman I married if she made a speech despising the working class and their exploitation… but a speech confronting a billionaire with a fascist project? In no way that…
– But doesn’t that hinder the Government? Doesn’t it offer ammunition to the far right?
– The far right is like a gossipy neighbor. Anyway, he’s going to talk, and if he doesn’t have anything to say, he’s going to make it up. Everyone with a minimum of wisdom already understands this. If Janja doesn’t say anything, they’ll criticize her clothes, understand? So whoever wants ammunition to criticize the government will find one. What worries me is that our comrades feed this type of ammunition. And our government and its daily work to improve people’s lives and sustain democracy needs to be bigger than the gossip that circulates out there.
– Isn’t provoking Musk at this moment risky?
– Look mate, everyone already knows who Elon Musk is and what he is capable of. He’s that boy you played with on the street as a child, who owned the ball and if he got upset, he would leave and take the ball with him. But we’re talking about an adult man who has billions and a powerful social network. It’s not Janja’s speech that will change who he is and what he’s capable of doing… I don’t think even Musk took Janja’s jokey speech as seriously as many people here in Brazil. I guarantee you that he didn’t lose a minute of sleep or move an inch away from the power project he has.
– Wouldn’t you prefer Janja to be more like Dona Mariza when it comes to participation in public life?
– Forgive me, my dear, but this question is so stupid that I will reserve the right not to answer
– But didn’t Janja’s speech sound bad in front of the G20 leaders?
– Look, you know that I talk to people a lot, right? This includes the leaders I interact with. I would venture to tell you that most of them felt more represented than embarrassed.
– But it’s one thing to think and another thing to talk…
– Oh yes! And if there’s one thing I admire about women, it’s this: they have the courage to say many things that we men shy away from. That is why they are so fundamental in politics and public debate. I think that deep down Janja said something that a lot of people want to say but don’t have the courage or the means to say. But anyway, the fact of treating her speech as a global catastrophe (which it is not) says more about us than what she might have said. But in short, I’m not going to restrict or embarrass Janja’s speech, or I’ll be a type of man that I don’t want to be and wasn’t even elected to be. We all have the right to speak, make mistakes and reposition ourselves if we wish, this includes the speech of someone in public life. This is how democracy should work, for any and all genders. In fact, this interview could be with her too, and not just with me…
This is a fictional text written with a strong desire to be reality.
Rita Almeida – She is a psychologist/psychoanalyst, master and doctor in education from UFJF.
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