You have a son. What kind of music do you listen to together?
We don't listen to anything. We never listened to anything, actually. When he was a baby, we made productions together but that changed then; the distance imposed itself on us. Today, we talk more than we listen.
Do you talk about everything and nothing?
We mostly talk about everything, rarely about anything.
If I'm not mistaken, he is currently 7 years old. That’s the age you started writing. Are you projecting yourself onto him?
You are hot [rires]. I see the time he takes to do the things he enjoys. He goes all the way. I recognize myself in that, maybe we have that in common.
You grew up between two extremes: the war in Congo, then the decommissioning in Belgium. What environment would you like him to grow up in?
Never mind. What interests me is its peace. What I'm going to say is violent, but if he's at peace in prison, fine. Because in the end, peace is all we have. It doesn't matter where he is, whether he has zero or a billion, whether he does what he wants… We gave him life, we didn't lend it to him. As long as he's at peace, I'm fine with it.
Did he teach you to let go?
No, I didn't give up [rires]. I don't like it, actually. I've tried, but I like the relationship I have with my brain. I relax by fulfilling visions I have in my head. I'm not interested in letting go.
It seems that you fill out an “emotions manual” in your phone. What does it contain?
Lots of sentences, words. I feed it all the time, it helps me update in complicated situations. Recently, I lost a loved one – rest his soul. I went to my workbook, I had written something there after reading a book that explained how to help grieve. I have notes like that, which I can come back to, to try to get better. A relationship that's going badly, a difficulty… It's like Post-It notes on a fridge.
In a post, you wrote: “I reached the level I wanted in music, I can finally move on. My music therapy is over, I’m healed.” How did you know you had reached this level?
I vibrated where I wanted to vibrate. Before, when I made music, I expected a lot of things from it. Now, I'm no longer waiting for them, because I think I've sorted them out. I haven't taken the time to explain all this to myself yet, it's new. For example, when I was extremely sad, I made the sound “Two Stars of the Sea”. When I reached this level of deep song, in this way… This is what I wanted to feel one day, when I started music. In the future album, BĒYĀHthere were other things I wanted to feel. In I liedI've seen more, but knowing that it's a bonus, I say to myself: “Okay, that's good.” Now, I want that in other areas, in design… For example, feeling that way when making a very complicated sofa, that interests me. Because the work will be different, it's longer, it's something else again. That’s what interests me: discovering. I will continue the music, I will make sounds. But I've reached the point, and I don't want it to become a career. I always want it to be a passion. I vibrated as I wanted. I want to vibrate elsewhere. That's just it, actually.