“Stop there”: Dominique de Villepin and Elisabeth Borne raise their voices on the set of “Quelle Époque”

There was water in the gas yesterday on the set of “Quelle Époque”, Saturday November 23. Launched on the thorny subject of France's place on the international scene, Dominique de Villepin and Elisabeth Borne started a heated conversation.

“I will not recall Emmanuel Macron's position when he went to the Middle East for the first time indicating that it was necessary to form an anti-terrorist coalition, I do not believe that this was the initiative he “was necessary”, began the former Prime Minister of Jacques Chirac.

“Politician policy”

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“The fight that must be waged is a fight that defends the principles, those that must be defended in Ukraine, in Gaza and in the Middle East“he continued.

These remarks did not fail to provoke a reaction from Emmanuel Macron's former prime minister: “we are entering into political politics, France has affirmed very strongly from the start that Israel has the right to defend itself with respect of international law.

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She is then cut off by her counterpart. The tone goes up a notch. “Stop there. Is she doing it in compliance with international law?” criticizes Dominique de Villepin.

“We are not many diplomats on this set”

The virulent exchange continues. “What’s your magic solution?” retorts the politician. “It’s not to accept,” the former Prime Minister tells him. “I don't accept it! The massacres in the Gaza Strip, I don't accept them. And then?”, the MP immediately defends.

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Dominique de Villepin positioned himself in favor of continuing a dialogue and advocated the independence of France.

“I apologize but I think we are not many diplomats on this set. Diplomacy is trying and trying again,” he continued, provoking groans from the other guests.

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He then positioned himself in favor of a new resolution for Gaza.

The Ukraine question

Then the discussions turned to the Ukrainian question. “We have had successive sets of sanctions for Europe which is in the process of sanctioning Russia,” said the former Prime Minister.

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“Can we be satisfied with it knowing that all these sanctions are being circumvented?” replied the politician. He urged European countries to work with the Ukrainians to establish a “red line” for Donald Trump to avoid Ukrainian capitulation.

The sequence, published on X, formerly Twitter, after the show, has already been viewed more than 500,000 times in less than 24 hours.