Rather muscular exchanges. Saturday November 23, in “What a time!” on France 2, Léa Salamé and her acolytes received the director Michel Hazanavicius, the actor Lorant Deutsch, the comedian Sébastien Thoen, and the musician Lucky Love.
“The message has often been garbled”
During the evening, on the subject of wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, tensions arose between two other guests, Élisabeth Borne and Dominique de Villepin. The latter wanted to remind Léa Salamé: “The message has often been confused by different positions taken over time. And sometimes I won't call back the positionEmmanuel Macron when he first visited the Middle East and indicated the need to form an anti-terrorist coalition. Did you hear it like me? I don't think it was the initiative that needed to be taken… I say that because I spend my life traveling”.
On the set of France 2, Élisabeth Borne then clarified: “I think there is a special envoy from the President of the Republic…” To which the one who was Prime Minister from May 31, 2005 to May 17, 2007 replied: “I heard Jean-Yves Le Drian in recent days, but it is not to appoint a special envoy. I prefer to see a certain number of leaders around the world, trying to provide a certain number of solutions and proposals. And in this case the fight that must be waged and which France is not waging sufficiently, is a fight to defend the principles, what must be defended in Ukraine and what must be defended in Gaza and the Middle East and in particular do it. That international law must be respected in either case”.
The senior official replied: “Here, I think we are getting into a bit of political politics”. I think that saying that France did not assert very strongly from the start that Israel has the right to defend itself in accordance with international law…”. Interrupting the stateswoman, Dominique de Villepin exclaimed: “Stop there, stop there! Does it do so in compliance with international law? No, but stop there, stop there!”.
Élisabeth Borne did not fail to ask: “But who doesn't say it today and what is your magic solution? When Joe Biden gives an ultimatum to Benjamin Netanyahu who does not respect it, what is your magic solution?”. “It's not to accept!”, said Dominique de Villepin, before being interrupted by the MP who was Prime Minister from May 16, 2022 to January 9, 2024: “Well I don't accept it, you see the massacres in the Gaza Strip, I don't accept them”.
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And the septuagenarian concluded on the public service channel: “I'm fighting for this and the United States vetoed it. A few days ago, they vetoed the umpteenth resolution on Gaza… Something else has happened since then, which is that there is now a mandate against Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant. Will Mr. Biden today have the courage, or rather the lack of courage, to oppose the resolution once again? I'm sorry, but I don't think there are many diplomats here. Diplomacy is about trying again, and you see on Ukraine, it's exactly the same”.
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